Wednesday, April 19, 2017

Finally, someone asks the question!


Is Henry Rollins telling the truth about the death of his roommate Joe Cole?-William Ramsey Investigates

Now is the time and place to lay out data on Joe Cole and the case.

First we will start with the BLATANT CONTRADICTION between the investigating detective Lt. Ross Moen and Wiki's version of events.

Punk Rock Band's Road Crew Member Slain

December 20, 1991
A Venice man who once served on the road crew for the defunct punk rock band Black Flag was shot to death Thursday by robbers as he walked home from a neighborhood grocery store, police said.
Joe Cole, 30, and his roommate were returning from the Boys Market on Lincoln Boulevard at 12:40 a.m. when they were robbed of about $40 by two gunmen, said Lt. Ross Moen. The victims were then ordered to return to their house about 1 1/2 blocks away, where one of the suspects fired a single shot at Cole and fled, Moen said.
Cole, the son of TV actor Dennis Cole, was a "roadie" for Black Flag during the critically acclaimed group's final U.S. tour in 1986. David Crouch, manager of Rhino Records in Westwood, described Cole as a popular figure in the alternative music scene who had been a "confidant and right-hand man" to the musicians in Black Flag.
Here's some more work by Lt. Ross Moen:

Murders of two feuding rap artists prompt questions about coastal rivalry

Phyllis Pollack, a publicist who has represented several rap stars, including the Geto Boys and N.W.A., said it's too early to speculate on what role the bicoastal feud had in their deaths.
"Sure, there's been this competition, but that's been since day one, but we don't have artists on the West Coast saying, 'Let's kill off all of those East Coast rappers so we can sell more records on the East Coast," she said.
Jesse Washington, managing editor of VIBE magazine, acknowledged there was animosity between the rappers but cautioned against trying to read too much into the deaths. VIBE magazine sponsored the party that B.I.G. attended before his death Sunday.
"I think all I can say right now is that it's too early to attribute this to a coastal rivalry, Tupac revenge or anything else because there's just so many different possibilities and aspects to this whole situation," said Washington, a former Associated Press reporter.
More importantly, Washington said, the deaths are a "sad reflection on the level of violence in our community."
But Chaka Zulu, a cousin of Tupac Shakur's, disagreed.
"I think to some extent this was a retaliation for Pac's death," said Zulu, who is music director for Atlanta-area rap station WHTA-FM. "I don't think it came out of Pac's camp, though. I think it came from people that are caught up in the hype of the music and the East-Coast-West Coast thing. As said as it is, it empowers some people to say, 'This is my coast!"'
The Notorious B.I.G., whose real name was Christopher Wallace, was leaving a party celebrating the Soul Train Awards when someone drove by and shot through the passenger side door of the GMC Suburban where he was sitting. The driver of B.I.G.'s car drove to a hospital, where 24-year-old Wallace was pronounced dead.
Los Angeles police Lt. Ross Moen said Wallace died of multiple 9 mm gunshot wounds to the upper body. Police were interviewing about 200 witnesses and hope to soon release a sketch of the gunman, who is described as black, in his early 20s and believed to be driving a dark-colored sedan.
The gunman pulled along side of Wallace's vehicle at a stop light and fired before speeding away. One of three vehicles in Wallace's group tried to follow the suspect, but couldn't keep up with him, Moen said.
"We're not overlooking any possibilities of a payback or gang-related type shooting, (and) we're not overlooking the fact that this was possibly a hit, a direct target, coming out of possibly New York. It could come out of L.A. It could come out of Atlanta," Moen said.
No arrests have been made in the September shooting of Shakur, 25, either.
Shakur was in Las Vegas with Death Row Records founder Marion "Suge" Knight on Sept. 7 when he was shot near the Las Vegas Strip while sitting in the passenger seat of Knight's car. Shakur was rushed to the hospital, but died one week later. Knight suffered minor injuries and has been described as uncooperative by Las Vegas police.
On Monday, Death Row Records, which Knight ran and that produced Shakur, sent official condolences to friends and family of B.I.G.
"Having just had the untimely death of one of our own, Tupac Shakur, by way of the same senseless violence, we do sympathize with those closest to Mr. Wallace," a statement read.
Relations between the two rappers, once best of friends, became hostile as they competed for fans, fame and women.
The rivalry developed in the 1980s as West Coast rappers grew in popularity, surpassing many East Coast rappers' record sales. The Notorious B.I.G. was credited with helping put the East Coast rap scene back on the map a few years ago while building his gangsta rap persona around authenticity.
The feud between Wallace and Shakur was more than just a regional rivalry, however. It was very personal. It accelerated in 1994 after Shakur was robbed of $40,000 worth of jewelry and shot several times. Shakur, who was born in the Bronx but lived in California as an adult, claimed Wallace was behind the attack.
Wallace, also known as Biggie Smalls, always denied involvement, but Shakur held fast to his belief.
Shakur also claimed to have slept with Faith Evans, Wallace's estranged wife. Shakur bragged about his conquest in a song.
Contributing to this story were staff writers Paula Story in Los Angeles and Nekesa Moody in Albany, N.Y.

I could not find very much at all on Lt. Ross Moen.   A few stories but nothing else worth while.  I could not find a picture of him either.

Murder of Joe Cole

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Murder of Joe Cole
LocationVenice Beach, California, United States
DateDecember 19, 1991
Attack type
Murder, robbery
Joseph Dennis Cole
BornJoseph Dennis Cole
April 10, 1961
California, United States
DiedDecember 19, 1991 (aged 30)
Venice Beach, California, United States
OccupationWriter, author, actor, roadie
Parent(s)Dennis Cole
Sally Bergeron
Joseph Dennis Cole, an American roadie for Black Flag and Rollins Band, was shot and killed in an armed robbery on December 19, 1991.[1]


Cole was the son of actor Dennis Cole by his first wife, Sally Bergeron.[2] Cole also worked as a roadie for Hole, filming the group's 1991 tour performances, and appeared in several films including Raymond Pettibon's The Book of Manson, where he also has a cinematography credit.

Incident and aftermath[edit]

Cole and Henry Rollins were assaulted by armed robbers in December 1991 outside their shared Venice Beach, California, home at 809 Brooks Avenue in the Oakwood district.[3] They had attended a Hole concert at the Whisky a Go Go and were returning home after having stopped at an all-night grocery store when two armed men – described as African-Americans in their 20s – approached them demanding money. Angry that Rollins and Cole had only $50 between them, the gunmen ordered the two men to go inside their house for more cash. Rollins entered at gunpoint. However, Cole was killed outside after being shot in the face at close range while Rollins escaped out the back door and alerted the police.[4][5] The murder remains unsolved.[2]
In a 1992 Los Angeles Times interview, Rollins revealed he kept a plastic container full of soil soaked with Cole's blood. Rollins said, "I dug up all the earth where his head fell – he was shot in the face – and I've got all the dirt here, and so Joe Cole's in the house. I say good morning to him every day. I got his phone, too, so I got a direct line to him. So that feels good."[4] He is remembered in the Sonic Youth songs "JC" and "100%" on their album Dirty.[6][7]
A book of Cole's collected writings, primarily tour journals, was published posthumously by Henry Rollins's publishing company and titled Planet Joe.[8] It describes his time touring in the 1980s, in particular with Black Flag.[9][10] Henry Rollins included Cole's story in his spoken word performances.[11] Cole also appeared in Raves – God's Movie, Volume 1 starring Joe Cole. According to Rolling Stone magazine, after Cole's death, hundreds of hours of interviews Cole had taped with "flamboyant street characters" in Venice Beach were edited into an hour of "primo footage" that the magazine described as "an unflinching look at the American dream gone amok."[12]
Lets look at more stories with Rollins quotes from

CASE DETAILS - From unsolved Mysteries.
Actor Dennis Cole has appeared in dozens of television shows like “The Young and The Restless” and “The Fall Guy.”  His son, Joe, might have followed in his father’s footsteps.  But on December 19, 1991, at the age on 29, Joe Cole was murdered, and his killer is still unknown. 
To this day, Dennis Cole is still haunted by the crime:
“There is not a day that goes by that I don’t think about him.  And we’ve always shared things,… and it’s like I have no one to call up and say hey, “Hey Joe, guess what happened?’  And he would do the same thing with me.  And it’s like a part of your heart was just taken and pulled out.”
The beachfront community of Venice, California, is the scene of a year-round street party.  For decades, the area has been home to writers, artists and musicians.  Joe Cole, an actor and a photographer, fit right in.
In Venice, Joe was documenting the lives of homeless Vietnam veterans.  Joe’s long-time friend Henry Rollins – a writer and lead singer of the Rollins Band—helped with the project:
“Those men you see talking to themselves, standing next to pay phones on streets, he would bond with these people.  Where they wouldn’t give you the time of day, they would tell the story of their lives to Joe.”
Rollins and Cole often shopped at an all-night market just a block from their house.  On December 19, 1991, they were returning home, as usual, with their bags of groceries when two men suddenly shoved guns in their faces.  One robber pushed Rollins to his knees.  The other forced Joe to the ground.  Henry Rollins recalls:
“The guy who was on me said, ‘If you yell or if you scream, I’m going to blow your head off.’ And I said, ‘Okay.’”
When the robbers found that the men had only $50 between them, they said they wanted to be taken to their house. Rollins says that he thought that he and Cole were going to be executed while the men robbed their home.  As they walked in the front door, Rollins heard gun shots behind him. He ran through the house, out the back door, and down an ally.  He found a phone and called police.
The police arrived within minutes, but Joe Cole was dead. The killers had vanished into the night.
Detective Bill Cox of Los Angeles Police Department, Pacific Division, is lead investigator on the case and hopes someone will come forward with information:
“My partner and myself have put in thousands of hours interviewing hundreds of people. Criminals always talk and they talk to other people.  Somebody knows something out there that happened to Joe Cole.”

Primal Scream

Henry Rollins Speaks
By Andy Carvin and Chris Crone

In December of 1991, Rollins witnessed the murder of his best friend, Joe Cole. The violence and anger which typify Rollins' lyrics had finally caught up with him.
He and Cole were headed home from a grocery store in Venice, California when they were held up by two armed men. After taking their money, the thieves forced Rollins to unlock the door to his house. As Henry finally reached the main hallway, Joe turned around and attempted to flee. Cole was shot in the face and Rollins escaped through a back entrance of the house. Images of the evening still haunt him.
"Sometimes when I catch myself having a really good time, or enjoying something," Rollins explains to art+performance, "I have a tendency to check myself and say, 'Should I really be grinning this much?'
"I'm not really all that experienced with death," says Rollins. "I wasn't in Vietnam. I know people who had everyone blown up next to them. I know people who killed more people than they can remember. I'm not bragging -- I'm saying I know people who REALLY know about death.
"I don't. I mean, I've only had ONE guy die next to me."

For several fateful moments, Rollins honestly thought he would never leave his house alive.
"It was strange -- being walked into your house at gunpoint -- because it wasn't like I didn't wonder if I was going to die. I knew I was going to be executed. I was terrified. But, in that time, there was something that was pretty unterrifying about it. It was very ultimate. . . If I said, 'Come on, man,' he'd say, 'Yeah, right. BANG ! ! !' I had a gun to my back and my hands up, and I went along. I didn't hope for the best. I couldn't hope."
After escaping and phoning the police, Rollins became the prime suspect in Joe Cole's murder. "I was arrested and held for ten hours, and since then they've been interrogating me as to how much cocaine we were moving out of the house. They're dealing with someone who's never even tried cocaine, never even really seen cocaine. So for me, trying to legitimize myself to this PIG, who's going, 'Come on, Henry, we're not trying to bust you. Just tell the truth. Are we talkin' kilos or what?' The guys don't get it. The strongest thing that came into our house was Tylenol and coffee. I'm totally a lightweight on that level."
Five months later, Rollins is unable to find any meaning in Joe's death. "You kill someone, they're dead. You step on a bug, you kill it, it's dead. That's it. You rot, make good soil for someone's tomato garden, and that's it.
"I don't believe in karma, I don't believe in any of that, because my friend died for nothing. I can't find a single reason why he died, except that someone shot him, and that's it. I mean, he came home from the store -- that's what he did. That's what we're guilty of -- coming back from the grocery store. That's what he did to die."

Rollins is still surprised by the unusual location of the murder. "Venice is like one big small neighborhood," Rollins explains. "No one ever talks to each other but everyone knows who everyone is.
"There is an unwritten law in Venice. I lived on Brooks avenue, which bisects 5th and a big part of the middle of Venice called Ghost Town -- it's like Venice Shoreline Cryps. Crack, guns, dead bodies, helicopters, high-speed chases, but, if you're on the other side of 5th, you're not in Ghost Town. If you're not past 5th, you're not looking to buy drugs. They know that. And if you're in their neighborhood, you're in their neighborhood. . . It's really cool, because, if you want trouble, like you really ever would, but if you did, all you'd have to do is take ten steps over 5th, and all these black guys would be looking at you saying, 'Are you crazy??? Don't you know this is Ghost Town? Go ten steps back, or I'm gonna have to shoot you.'
"Me and Joe used to take our bikes and go through Ghost Town to go to the beach and work out on the chin-up bars. We used to call it Running the Gauntlet. You get all the speed you can for the two blocks before 5th, so by the time you get to Ghost Town, you're like hurling down, and there are guys trying to get in front of you to slow you down going 'Hey dude! Hey dude! Come here.' Yeah right. But the drag is, one night, Ghost Town came to visit. The guy who wasted Joe probably lived five blocks from my house.
"I basically lived in a hip ghetto. You go two blocks and to the left, and your in Baby Beirut. Back up, go two blocks and to the right, and you're at Dennis Hopper's house. Two blocks past that, and you're bumping your nose into Arnold Schwarzenegger's parking space at World Gym. Literally, Ghost Town ends at the end of Schwarzenegger's Jeep. Go two blocks from the Jeep, and I don't think even old Arnold would want to deal with that. They'd be like, 'Oh, yeah. Terminator, right??? BOOM!!!'"
"I moved the next day, because I didn't want them coming back and finishing me. I live in Hollywood now."
 Joseph Dennis "Joe" Cole
Birth: Apr. 10, 1961
Los Angeles County
California, USA
Death: Dec. 19, 1991
Los Angeles County
California, USA

Actor. He is best remembered for his role of Tex Watson in the movie "The Book of Manson" (1989). The son of movie actor Dennis Cole and Sally Bergeron Cole, Joe Cole was a minor actor just beginning his career, and had first appeared in the movie "Weatherman '69" (1989). He continued to draw small roles, in such movies as "Sir Drone" (1989) and "Citizen Tania" (1989). Since his acting roles came few and far between, he worked primarily on the road crew of the punk band Black Flag (1976 - 1986), and when that band broke up in 1986, he joined the new band formed by Black Flag's lead singer, Henry Rollins, known as the Rollins Band (1986 - present). He and Henry Rollins were close friends, and the two men lived in the same house in Los Angeles to save money. On December 19, 1991, the two men were robbed at gunpoint in their house, and Joe Cole was shot in the head, killing him instantly. To date (2006), the crime remains unsolved. After his death, a made-for-television movie, "Bay City Story" (1992) was released using scenes with Joe Cole that were filmed just prior to his death. At the time of his death, Cole was in a romantic relationship with bassist player Michelle Leon of the band, Babes in Toyland. Since his death, Henry Rollins has dedicated several songs in Joe's memory, and the song "JC" by Sonic Youth is also dedicated to him. (bio by: Kit and Morgan Benson)

Family links:
  Dennis Cole (1940 - 2009)
Forest Lawn Memorial Park (Hollywood Hills)
Los Angeles
Los Angeles County
California, USA
Plot: Revelation, Lot 3430, Grave 4
GPS (lat/lon): 34.14569, -118.32388

Maintained by: Find A Grave
Record added: Jan 31, 2001
Find A Grave Memorial# 20036
Here's a definite change in story in the interview by MTV's 120 minutes...
Henry Rollins -on near death experience- his childhood- Joe Cole- Interview 1992

Fast forward to 4:50 to get to the Joe Cole story.
At 5:33 we here...
"I heard a scuffle"
"The guy shot 4 times"

Is Henry Rollins telling the truth about the death of his roommate Joe Cole?
Henry Rollins interview with Howard Stern

2:04 "My neighborhood which is like a crack neighborhood"
After talking about Rick Rubins visit...
2:30 " I wrote in my journal that night, my place is going to get popped"
2:37 "They knew I was the MTV guy"
After using power of suggestion to plant the seeds of a scene in listeners minds...
3:22 "They were waiting in the driveway"
3:33 " This is on the sidewalk right in front of the house"
3:37 "Hiding in the driveway by the car"
3:48 "They patted us down to see if we had guns"
4:14 " I grew up in Washing D.C., I spent my life getting mugged"
4:47 "They started shootin"
5:05 William Ramsey points out anomaly about the money being mentioned
5:09 "We got to BANG BANG BANG"
5:35 " I was promptly arrested, I fit the description of the guy I was calling in"

5:52 "The shots came to an end, I just stood there for a second"
6:03 "The detective came with me the next day"
6:09 "The crime scene has not been touched, my friend has been moved away"
Then he makes up more scenarios and leaves it to us to paint the picture...
At 7:40 he brings up Dennis Cole and the threats he had to make to Dennis so he would quit talking shit...

Henry Rollins Talks About His Good Friend Joe Cole

7:57 "Two guys came out of the bushes"
9:15 "BANG! He ran out of the back of the house, ran up an alley made a left made a right made a left, went to a phone call, dialed 911"


11:19 "Shot in the left cheek"
11:33 "We get to the front porch and theirs television reporters there, National Enquirer"

Ok, so that's that.

There are plenty more anomalies to point out.   I just pointed out some of the consistently inconsistent stuff...
809 brooks avenue Venice ca 90291 this Venice charmer will go fast 3 beds 1 bath 8 blocks from the ocean what more could any person want henry Rollins first Venice home where he and Joe Cole were robbed and Cole was murdered
Joe Cole performed in a number of movies for Raymond Pettibon.  
Bay City Story (TV Movie) 1992-NOT PETTIBON
Cab Driver

Citizen Tania -1989 Pettibon 

Sir Drone - 1989  Pettibon

The Book of Manson - 1989  Pettibon 
Tex Watson

Weatherman '69  - 1989 Pettibon 
Jiggs Pottios / Gyorghi Truax

Not much to say about these movies.   Ray Pettibon uses quite a few notable punk rockers as actors in these movies: Pat Smear, Dez Cadena, Mike Watt and so on.   These movies are utter garbage and can be found on youtube.

A little about Ray Pettibon AKA Raymond Ginn...

Raymond Pettibon

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Raymond Pettibon
BornRaymond Ginn
June 16, 1957 (age 59)
Tucson, Arizona, U.S.[1]
NationalityUnited States
Known forDrawingVideo artInstallation art
Raymond Pettibon (born Raymond Ginn; June 16, 1957) is an American artist who lives and works in New York City.[2] Pettibon came to prominence in the early 1980s in the southern California punk rock scene, creating posters and album art mainly for groups on SST Records, owned and operated by his brother, Greg Ginn. He has since gone on to international acclaim, earning several awards and exhibiting in major galleries and museums.

Early life[edit]

Black Flag logo designed by Pettibon
The fourth of five children born to R. C. K. Ginn, an English teacher who published several spy novels;[3] his mother was a housewife.[4] Pettibon grew up in Hermosa Beach, California.[5] He was raised Christian Scientist.[2] He earned an economics degree from UCLA in 1977[3] and worked as a high school mathematics teacher in the L.A. public school system for a short period, before pursuing and completing his BFA in 1977.[6]
In 1977, his brother, guitarist/songwriter Greg Ginn, founded the influential punk rock band Black Flag. Initially, Pettibon had been a bass player in the group when it was known by the name Panic. When the band discovered that another band called Panic existed, Pettibon suggested the name Black Flag and designed their distinctive "four bars" logo.[7] Around the same time, Pettibon adopted his new surname, from the nickname petit bon (good little one) given to him by his father.[8] Pettibon’s artwork appeared on fliers, album covers and gift items (T-shirts, stickers and skateboards) for Black Flag through the early 1980s, and he became well known in the Los Angeles punk rock scene.[9]
Pettibon is married to video artist Aïda Ruilova, with whom he has a son.[10] He is an avid sports fan.[11] In 2014, Pettibon sold his Craftsman-style house in Venice for $1.219 million.[12]


Known for his comic-like drawings with disturbing, ironic or ambiguous text, Pettibon's subject matter is sometimes violent and anti-authoritarian. From the late 1970s through the mid-1980s, he was closely associated with the punk rock band Black Flag and the record label SST Records, both founded by his older brother Greg Ginn. In addition, Pettibon has designed the cover of the 1990 Sonic Youth album Goo; bassist Kim Gordon had been a longtime admirer of Pettibon's art and written about him for Artforum in the 1980s.[3] Beginning in the mid-1980s, he became a well-known figure in the contemporary art scene.
Pettibon works primarily with India ink on paper and many of his early drawings are black and white, although he sometimes introduces color through the use of pencilwatercolorcollagegouache or acrylic paint. He has stated that his interest in this technique is a result of the influence of artists such as William Blake and Goya, and the style of political editorial cartoons.[13] His drawings come out by the hundreds. He started to publish them as limited-edition photocopied booklets in 1978. These booklets, which he continues to produce as "Superflux Pubs," are considered "the sum of his ideas and aesthetics".[3] Pettibon started working in collage in the mid-80s with simple newsprint elements collaged onto black and white images.[14] In his new works, the artist again uses the means of collage.[15]

Public art projects[edit]

For New York's High Line, Pettibon created a temporary billboard in 2013, displaying a 2010 baseball drawing called No Title (Safe he called ...) and featuring Jackie Robinson of the Brooklyn Dodgers sliding home.[16]

Other projects[edit]

In addition to his works on paper, Pettibon has also made animations from his drawings, live action films from his own scripts, unique artist’s books, fanzines, prints, and large permanent wall drawings that often include an arrangement of his own works on paper almost creating an installation of collage. In the early 1990s, fellow artist Mike Kelley played guitar on an album of songs that Pettibon recorded for the independent label Blast First out of New York and London.[3] He is now the lead singer of the Niche Makers, a band based in Venice, California.[17]
Pettibon's artwork inspired the music video for the 2011 song "Monarchy of Roses" by Red Hot Chili Peppers. Pettibon is also mentioned in the song's lyrics.
In June 2013, a new documentary series, The Art of Punk was released on YouTube. The first episode features the art of Black Flag and Pettibon.[18]

Album covers (selection)[edit]

  • BLANK MEETS PETTIBON, The Berlin Concert (LP, picture disc) 2016
  • WOODEN HEART (single, picture disc) 2015
  • BURMA SHAVE ELECTRICS (LP, picture disc) 2013
Saccharine Trust
Sonic Youth
Unknown Instructors
Bomb Squad Children of War EP 1983

Exhibition history[edit]

Group exhibitions[edit]

Pettibon began exhibiting his work in group shows in galleries in the 1980s. In 1992, Pettibon was invited to participate in Helter Skelter: L.A. Art in the 1990s, curated by Paul Schimmel at the Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles (MOCA).
In 1993, Pettibon was included in the Whitney Biennial. By the mid-90s, Pettibon had exhibited extensively, including exhibitions at the Museum of Modern Art, New York; the Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles (MOCA); Kunsthaus ZurichWhite Columns, New York. In the late 90s, Pettibon to exhibited internationally including shows at the Tramway (arts centre) in Glasgow, Scotland, the Hammer Museum, Los Angeles and the 1997 Whitney Biennial.
In 2002, Pettibon participated in documenta XI in Kassel, Germany, curated by Okwui Enwezor. In 2004, Pettibon participated in the Site Santa Fe Fifth International Biennial exhibition: Disparities and Deformations: Our Grotesque, curated by Robert Storr. For this exhibition, he created his first animation using his own drawings. That same year, Pettibon participated in the Whitney Biennial for the third time and was awarded the prestigious Bucksbaum Award for his installation of drawings.
In 2007, Dominic Molon of the Museum of Contemporary Art, Chicago organized an exhibition titled, Sympathy for the Devil: Art and Rock and Roll since 1967, and included a selection of Pettibon’s original drawings from Black Flag concert flyers and album covers.
In 2008, Pettibon participated in the California Biennial, organized by Lauri Firstenberg, which featured one of his works as a large billboard on the Sunset strip in Los Angeles. In 2010, Pettibon participated in the Liverpool Biennial curated by Lorenzo Fusi. In 2011, Rizzoli released a comprehensive monograph, edited by Ralph Rugoff, the most comprehensive publication of Pettibon’s works to date.

Solo exhibitions[edit]

Barry Blinderman gave Pettibon his first solo exhibition at the Semaphore Gallery in New York in 1986.[19] In 1995, he had his first major solo exhibition at David Zwirner Gallery. By the mid-1990s he had his first solo museum exhibition at the Kunsthalle Bern in Switzerland, which traveled to Paris. In 1998, a self-titled show opened at the Renaissance Society in Chicago, and traveled to the Drawing Center in New York; the Philadelphia Museum of Art; and the Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles. In 2002, he had a solo exhibition, Raymond Pettibon Plots Laid Thick, organized by Museu D’art Contemporani de Barcelona (MACBA), which traveled to Tokyo Opera City Art Gallery, Tokyo and GEM, Museum Voor Actuele Kunst, The Hague, The Netherlands.
In 2006, Pettibon had a major solo survey exhibition at the Centro de Arte Contemporaneo de Malaga, Spain that traveled to the kestnergesellschaft in Hannover, Germany. A comprehensive catalogue was produced on the occasion of both exhibitions. In 2007, Pettibon participated in the Venice BiennialThink with the Senses – Feel with the Mind: Art in the Present Tense, curated by Robert Storr for which he created a unique wall drawing installation.
  • 2013: "PUNK cabinet de curiosités MADE IN Raymond Pettibon", galerie mfc-michèle didier, Paris.
  • 2016 "HOMO AMERICANUS" Sammlung Falckenberg [1], Hamburg


Monographs of Pettibon’s work include: Raymond Pettibon, published by Centro de Arte Contemporaneo de Malaga for his solo exhibition in 2006 at the museum in Malaga, Spain and subsequently traveled to the kestnergesellschaft in Hannover, Germany. Whatever You’re Looking For You Wont’ Find It here, published by the Kunsthalle Wien to accompany Pettibon’s exhibition in 2006; Turn to the Title Page, an artist book that was specially created as a part of Pettibon’s one-artist exhibition at the Whitney Museum in 2005; Raymond Pettibon: Plots Laid Thick published by MACBA in Barcelona, Spain in 2002; Raymond Pettibon, published by Phaidon Press, Inc. in 2001; Raymond Pettibon: A Pen of All Work, published by Phaidon Press, Inc. in 2017; Raymond Pettibon: The Books 1978-98, edited by Roberto Ohrt and published by Verlag der Buchhandlung Walter Konig and DAP, New York in 2000; and Raymond Pettibon: A Reader, published by the Philadelphia Museum of Art and the Renaissance Society at the University of Chicago in 1998. That same year the Renaissance Society also published, Thinking of You a limited edition artist book. Raymond Pettibon, published by Kunsthalle Bern, edited by Ulrich Loock in 1995.


Pettibon’s work is included in the collection of many museums and institutions worldwide including: The Armand Hammer Museum, Los Angeles, CA; The Art Institute of Chicago, Chicago, IL; Dallas Museum of Art, Dallas, Texas; Ellipse Foundation Contemporary Art Collection, Lisbon, Portugal; FRAC Nord-Pas de Calais, Lille, France; Kunstmuseum St. Gallen (de), St. Gallen, Switzerland; Hamburger Bahnhof, Museum für Gegenwart, Berlin, Germany; Laguna Art Museum, Laguna Beach, CA; Los Angeles County Museum of Art, Los Angeles, CA; Ludwig Museum, Köln, Germany; Milwaukee Art Museum, Milwaukee, WI; Museion, Bolzano, Italy; Museum Boijmans van Beuningen, Rotterdam, The Netherlands; Museum of Contemporary Art, Chicago, IL; Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles, CA; Museum of Contemporary Art, San Diego, CA; Museum of Modern Art, New York, NY; Neue Galerie der Stadt Linz, Linz, Austria; Philadelphia Museum of Art, Philadelphia, PA; Pomona College Museum of Art, Claremont, CA; Saint Louis Art Museum, St. Louis, MO; Sammlung Goetz, Munich, Germany; San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, San Francisco, CA; Stiftung Kunsthalle Bern, Bern, Switzerland; Tate Modern, London, United Kingdom; Vancouver Art Gallery, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada; Walker Art Center, Minneapolis, MN; Whitney Museum of American Art, New York, NY; WIMNAM/CCI, Centre Pompidou, Paris, France.


Raymond Pettibon is the recipient of numerous awards and prizes. In 1991, he was awarded the Louis Comfort Tiffany Foundation Award for which a catalog was produced. In 2001, the Museum Ludwig named Pettibon the winner of its Wolfgang Hahn Prize. In 2003, Pettibon was awarded the Grand Prize of Honor for his participation in the 25th Biennial of Graphic Arts, Ljubljana, Slovenia. For the 2004 Whitney Biennial, Pettibon was invited to create an installation of drawings for the exhibition. He was awarded the Bucksbaum Award for his installation, the world’s largest award given to an individual artist.[20] (The Bucksbaum Award is awarded every two years and is always given to an artist whose work is displayed in that year’s Whitney Biennial.) As part of the honor, the Whitney Museum organized a solo exhibition that opened in the Fall of 2005, featuring new works and published an artist’s book for the occasion. Most recently, Pettibon was awarded the University of Vienna's Oscar Kokoschka Prize for 2010. Established by the Austrian government in 1980, following the painter’s death, the Kokoschka Prize is awarded to a contemporary artist every two years.

Art market[edit]

The artist is represented by Regen Projects, Los Angeles and David Zwirner, New York. He regularly shows with Contemporary Fine Arts, Berlin and Sadie Coles HQ, London. In 2011, on the occasion of Ben Stiller and David Zwirner’s Artists For Haiti charity auction at Christie's, Pettibon's No Title (But the sand), sold for $820,000.[21]
We might as well bring up Greg Ginn too.  He was in the band that Joe roadied for and brother to the highest paid comic artist in L.A. punk rock (my opinion, he's a joke) 

Greg Ginn

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Greg Ginn
Greg Ginn (Black Flag) (Ruhrpott Rodeo 2013) IMGP5891 smial wp.jpg
Greg Ginn performing with Black Flag in 2013
Background information
Birth nameGregory Regis Ginn
Also known asDale Nixon
BornJune 8, 1954 (age 62)
Tucson, Arizona, U.S.
GenresHardcore punkpunk rockfree jazzpunk jazzheavy metal
Occupation(s)Musician, songwriter, record producer
InstrumentsGuitar, bass guitar, theremin, vocals
Years active1976–present
Associated actsBlack FlagGoneConfront JamesMojack
Notable instruments
Ampeg Dan Armstrong Lucite
Gregory Regis "Greg" Ginn (born June 8, 1954) is an American guitarist, songwriter, and singer, best known for being the leader of and primary songwriter for the hardcore punk band Black Flag, which he founded and led from 1976–86, and again in 2003. The band announced another reunion on January 25, 2013.[1] He was born in Tucson, Arizona.[2] Since breaking up Black Flag, Ginn has recorded a few solo albums, and has performed with such bands as October FactionGoneConfront JamesMojack, and others.[3] He also owns the Texas-based independent record labelSST, originally begun as an electronics company called Solid State Transmitters when he was a teenager and amateur radio operator (in Hermosa Beach, California).
Ginn was 99th on Rolling Stone's list of "The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time".[4] Ginn is the older brother of artist Raymond Ginn, who goes by the pseudonym of Raymond Pettibon.

Comments from other musicians[edit]

Many artists have cited Ginn as an influence or have expressed their admiration for him, including Buzz Osborne of Melvins,[5] Omar Rodríguez-López of The Mars Volta,[6] William DuVall of Alice in Chains,[7] Ben Weinman of The Dillinger Escape Plan,[8] Kurt Ballou of Converge,[9] Bill Kelliher of Mastodon,[10] Zach Blair of Rise Against,[11] Andrew Williams of Every Time I Die,[12] and Nick Reinhart of Tera Melos.[13]

Black Flag[edit]

Main article: Black Flag (band)
Black Flag is an American hardcore punk band formed in 1976 in Hermosa Beach, California. The band was established by Greg Ginn, the guitarist, primary songwriter, and sole continuous member through multiple personnel changes in the band. They are widely considered to be one of the first hardcore punk bands. After breaking up in 1986, Black Flag briefly reunited in 2003 and again in 2013. Black Flag's sound mixed the raw simplicity of the Ramones with atonal guitar solos and frequent tempo shifts. The lyrics were written mostly by Ginn, and like other punk rock bands of the late 1970s and early 1980s, Black Flag voiced an anti-authoritarian and non-conformist message, in songs punctuated with descriptions of social isolation, neurosis, poverty, and paranoia. These themes were explored further when Henry Rollins joined the band as lead singer in 1981. Most of the band's material was released on Ginn's independent label, SST Records

Wiki says: The fourth of five children born to R. C. K. Ginn, an English teacher who published several spy novels
Regis Charles Ginn Obituary:
Ginn, Regis, Charles
A 41 year resident of Hermosa Beach, passed away on Friday, February 25, 2005 in Hermosa Beach. Born in Colorado, Regis was 81 when he died.
He served as a navigator during WWII in the U.S. 8th Army Air Corps., retiring as a Lieutenant Colonel. Graduate of Regis College and The University of Arizona, Regis taught College English of over 30 years, and was the author of books of both fiction and non-fiction including Tyger! Tyger! And Integrated Writing. Regis is survived by his wife, Oie Ginn; daughters Linda Flynn and Erika McMenamin; sons Adrian Ginn, Gregory Ginn and Raymond Ginn; sisters Mary Rita Cross and Virginia Marshall; brother, Father Raman Ginn; grandchildren. Alex, Janet, Daniel, Andrea, Bryan and Isadora. The Memorial Mass will be March 9, 2005, 10:00 AM at Our Lady of Guadalupe Catholic Church in Hermosa Beach, CA with inurnment to follow at 2:00 PM at Riverside National Cemetery, Riverside, CA. To send the family a message, share a memory or for directions to services please go to the mortuary's website,
Published in the Los Angeles Times on Mar. 5, 2005 have the token Lt. Col. hanging around.Joseph Dennis "Joe" Cole (April 10, 1961 – December 19, 1991) was a roadie for Black Flag and Rollins Band. He was also the best friend and roommate of the musician/author/actor Henry Rollins. His memoirs were published posthumously by 2.13.61 publishing, Planet Joe, in which he documented his experiences on the last Black Flag tour and first Rollins Band tour. He was shot and killed in a robbery at their home on December 19, 1991, as the pair returned from a video rental store a black male robbed and killed Joe Cole in his house which was aired on Unsolved Mysteries (the robbery was precipitated by Rick Rubin's earlier visit to their home in an expensive car, likely leading the burglars to believe there was something of value to steal). The murder remains unsolved. Cole was 30 years old.
Rollins went on to publish a two-part book series, the first book chronicling his time with Cole as his roommate, See a Grown Man Cry, and the second Rollins' non-stop working to near-nervous breakdown in the year following Cole's death, Now Watch Him Die.
Sonic Youth's "JC" was inspired by Cole's murder, and the Sonic Youth song "100%" on their Dirty album was dedicated to him. The music video shows a reenactment of the police finding Cole, played by actor Jason Lee, dead.
At the time of his death, Cole was in a relationship with Babes in Toyland bassist Michelle Leon. After his death, she was unable to face the rigors of touring and quit the group. Peers of Babes in Toyland, Hole, also dedicated their second studio album, Live Through This, to Joe Cole. Courtney Love's 2006 memoirDirty Blonde, also features a page as tribute to Joe Cole.
Joe Cole can be seen in many scenes of Dave Markey's movie, 1991: The Year Punk Broke as well as in some of Dave Markey's short films.
Cole's father was actor Dennis Cole and his mother is the former Sally Bergeron. Dennis Cole was briefly married during Joe's adolescence to Charlie's Angels actress Jaclyn Smith.
[Kim]Always cost a pair of hose - spaces pressed together rose
Arms around each others back - you know that I liked you Jack
And all the other boys who pose - a silent dance in the woods
In the suburb light is shown - another can of Coca Cola
Don't you ever call me Mom - freckled dancing in the plan 
And air so thin it weighs a ton - you can see as far as fun
You're nothing but a history - a second here and then you're gone
Quicksand, quicksand all around - turn the corner just beyond
The shadows move and change the groove - and something tells me not to brood
Turning room and that's a show - you're walking through my heart once more
Don't forget to close the door - I'm not certain of what you found
All the men want a charming whore - like a crown fortunes
Sunny skies and angels bleed - falling down upon my knees
That wasn't how it's supposed to be - clear blue eyes, justice tries
The wind is busy blowing dizzy - you're dreams were shot like a star
Exploding in a mind somewhere - doing something on a dare
Pulling a trigger like breathing air - a sunkissed boy that gave no thought
To what he'd made while others sake
Ocean spreads a candle sand - it's dripping in my hand, you're dead
Little brother reminding me - the moments tick forever true
You can see as far as him - don't you know the shape I'm in
You're walking through my heart once more - don't forget to close the door

100 %
Scientology's (Process Church) Jason Lee plays Joe Cole's body on this video.  
Speaking of Scientologist...
That's what came to mind when I read this portion of a book called:
"Pettibon got a job teaching mathematics in a Los Angeles high school"...
That would be a coincidence because we know of the Scientology based system employed by Fred Holtby.
Notable alumni
Pat Smear Germs Nirvana Foo Fighters AND A FEW OF PETTIBON MOVIES
Now seems to be a good point to note Henry's Manson infatuation...
SST records which fell under the distribution company of Faulty Products (Miles Copeland III) put out a Manson record...
Henry Rollins has had one fascinating life. He was in one of the most important punk bands of all time, he played Vanilla Ice in a music video, he has been the voiceover actor for Infiniti, he had a talk show on IFC, he had a small part in Jack Frost.....
In the 1980s Rollins also produced a full album by Charles Manson for SST, which would have made the noted psychopath and cult leader, who wanted to bring about a race war, labelmates with Bad Brains. The release of the album, entitled Completion, was cancelled due to safety concerns. Only five copies of the album were ever pressed; two belong to Rollins and the other three apparently are Manson’s.
In December 2010, Rollins participated in an event at the Echoplex in Los Angeles to benefit the Santa Monica radio station KCRW in which he played a variety of ultra-rare tracks, including a live rendition of “Pay to Cum” from the second show Bad Brains ever played, the first-ever Fugazi demo (“Waiting Room”), several Black Flag rarities, and one of the songs from the Manson album Rollins produced for SST. When he played the track—the title of which has, to my knowledge, not been made public—Rollins joked, “I can hear you all listening to your hair grow.”
In 2008 Rollins told the NME  of the correspondence with Manson that led to the recordings: 
“He wrote me a letter out of the blue once and he said, ‘I saw you on MTV and I thought you were pretty cool’.
“So we corresponded a few times in 1984; I’d just tell him about what we were doing with our new record and he’d send back semi-lucid responses.
“He made references to The Beach Boys stealing his ideas, which sounded like sour grapes, and told me to tell everybody else to take care of wildlife. That must have been the old hippy in him talking.”
Rollins outlined that he was very young when he started corresponding with Manson—who was sentenced to life in 1971 for the infamous Manson Family Murders which took place two years earlier.
“At the time I was very young and having him write me letters made me feel very intense and heavy,” he said. “I’d always know I’d have a letter in my PO Box from him because the woman behind the counter at the post office would give you this awful look.
“His letters would always have swastikas on them so they were easy to spot.”
 According to a 2010 article in The Gardian   “A lawyer representing Manson wrote to SST, asking them to help complete and release a collection of Manson’s songs. Then as now, Manson was serving a life sentence for his role in the Tate/LaBianca murders. ... Rollins agreed to produce the songs but a string of death threats forced SST to call off the project.”

To finish this all off we will just drop some quotes by and about Henry Rollins.

"I blinded a kid in kindergarten, stabbed one kid in the ass with a pencil because he beat me to a touchdown.  I remember watching the blood spread thought his pants and him giving me the strangest look.  I was a piece of shit"

"If you go hang out in Saddam's palace for an afternoon, there's no way that your're not going to have some stories to tell.  I'm not on some political agenda.  I'm just giving you my take of what I saw,"

- One of his mother's boyfriends beat him and mentally abused him.
- He remembers a man in Greece who pulled Rollins into his truck and sexually molested him
-There was some weirdness between Ian and Henry because Henry started dropping acid when he joined Black Flag.  He was exploring stuff that was outside of where they both came philosophically.

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